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Casey,
There are some old photo's of a M15 being launched at Newport Bay, CA that
show a crane being used. Jerry should be able to dredge up some thoughts, too.
Steve
>Hello,
>I have never seen a M 15 or M 17 in person, although from reading your
>discussions and other information regarding the Montgomery's I am becoming
>very interested.
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>Could anyone tell me if they have a lifting ring? Our club has no ramp, but
>we do have a crane. Has anyone had any experience lifting a Montgomery?
>
>Thanks
>Casey Jones
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Hello,
>
I have never seen a M 15 or M 17 in person,
although from reading your discussions and other information regarding the
Montgomery's I am becoming very interested.

Could anyone tell me if they have a lifting
ring? Our club has no ramp, but we do have a crane. Has anyone had any
experience lifting a Montgomery?

Thanks
>
Casey Jones
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Thanks, Larry, I had seen that post also, but my boat is the more recent
version with the teak toerail and no attachment points on it. Still want to
know if the chainplates will stand up to the hoist. TH.
> [Original Message]
> From: Larry Yake
> To:
> Date: 1/28/02 6:21:36 PM
> Subject: Fw: Re: M_Boats: lifting ring
>
> Thomas,
> I found this in my personal archives about lifting the M17. It's from
> Jerry M., so you can't get a much better answer than that.
> Larry Y.
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: jerry montgomery
> To: montgomery_boats@lists.xmission.com
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:26:22 +0000
> Subject: Re: M_Boats: lifting ring
> Message-ID: <3AD6015F.27DE@innercite.com>
> References:
>
> We used to lift the 17's (to keel them and put them on the trailer) by
> the extruded toe rails with no problem. Inspect the boat carefully and
> if everything is tight, lift from 4 points, using plenty of scope on the
> sling.
>
> Jerry
>
> Jerry Lehner wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know if it's okay to lift a 17 using the metal toerail for
> the
> > attachment points?
> > Jerry
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Thomas
I wouldn't lift the 17 with the chainplates. The chainplates are deck
mounted and while they are strong its not worth risking putting
stress on a balsa cored deck. (on older boats it may cause some
cosmetic stress cracking)
The caprail/aluminum toerails of the older boats are probably
sufficient for an empty boat (at Jerrys boatshop) but again, why
not just use a couple of slings that go under the hull and be safe?
The caprails are very strong but I would worry about the 'way'
the boat was plucked and the distribution of the 'load' at
the pick up points. A small pick up point, improperly attached
won't break the hull/deck flange but may cause (like anyboat)\
a stress point that would show up as a gelcoat crack.
If you could spread the load over a wider area, at 4 pickup points,
then it would work without stressing out one, small area.
For the metal toerails maybe a multiple (2 slings on each of 4 corners
with plenty of scope) would work just fine.
Boats tend to gain weight as they get older. :-)
Fair winds
Bob
Thomas Howe wrote:
> Thanks, Larry, I had seen that post also, but my boat is the more recent
> version with the teak toerail and no attachment points on it. Still want to
> know if the chainplates will stand up to the hoist. TH.
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Larry Yake
>> To:
>
> > Date: 1/28/02 6:21:36 PM
>
>> Subject: Fw: Re: M_Boats: lifting ring
>>
>> Thomas,
>> I found this in my personal archives about lifting the M17. It's from
>> Jerry M., so you can't get a much better answer than that.
>> Larry Y.
>> --------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: jerry montgomery
>> To: montgomery_boats@lists.xmission.com
>> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:26:22 +0000
>> Subject: Re: M_Boats: lifting ring
>> Message-ID: <3AD6015F.27DE@innercite.com>
>> References:
>>
>> We used to lift the 17's (to keel them and put them on the trailer) by
>> the extruded toe rails with no problem. Inspect the boat carefully and
>> if everything is tight, lift from 4 points, using plenty of scope on the
>> sling.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Jerry Lehner wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know if it's okay to lift a 17 using the metal toerail for
>>
>> the
>>
>>> attachment points?
>>> Jerry
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
>
>
>
> --- Thomas Howe
> --- Service Integrity Results
> --- Reece and Nichols, ACRES Realtors
> --- Your Link to Real Estate in Lawrence, Kansas
> --- 785-550-1169
> --- TEHowe@ReeceandNichols.com
> --- http://www.home.earthlink.net/~thomashowe/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
>
>
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Thomas

I wouldn't lift the 17 with the chainplates. The chainplates are deck

mounted and while they are strong its not worth risking putting

stress on a balsa cored deck. (on older boats it may cause some

cosmetic stress cracking)



The caprail/aluminum toerails of the older boats are probably

sufficient for an empty boat (at Jerrys boatshop) but again, why

not just use a couple of slings that go under the hull and be safe?



The caprails are very strong but I would worry about the 'way'

the boat was plucked and the distribution of the 'load' at

the pick up points. A small pick up point, improperly attached

won't break the hull/deck flange but may cause (like anyboat)\

a stress point that would show up as a gelcoat crack.



If you could spread the load over a wider area, at 4 pickup points,

then it would work without stressing out one, small area.



For the metal toerails maybe a multiple (2 slings on each of 4 corners

with plenty of scope) would work just fine.



Boats tend to gain weight as they get older. :-)



Fair winds

Bob



Thomas Howe wrote:

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