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Re: M_Boats: M-17 cockpit drainage
Re: M_Boats: M-17 rudder refinishing
(Continued next column)		 M_Boats: Howard, the Web Site Thunder Stealer
Re: M_Boats: Centerboard pins, ad nauseam

Message 1 of 4

From: Fritz Stuneck
Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 cockpit drainage
Date: 14 Apr 2000 14:59:25 -0500
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Thanks for the explanation. That wetlocker probably works well, I suppose.
Just never paid much attention to it when looking at boats before. I used to
think that the main difference between the old boats and the new was the
type of centerboard. I am finding out that there are many differences over
the years, eh? I sort of envy the cabin room in the newer boats. However,
we usually don't do much more than put sails there anyway. Deb & I usually
motel-it when travelling with the M-17.
I got the centerboard pictures and am waiting for an address to send them to
Doug King so you'll be able to see them pretty soon. The sandblaster worked
well also and showed up small fiberglass cracks which need repair. The paint
and primer cost almost $90 before I got thru, but they had it all at Fleet
Farm (ValSpar). Baaaaad stuff . . .zinc chromate chemicals. Thanks again for
the explanation. Fritz in Hugo
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Message 2 of 4

From: Howard A
Subject: Re: M_Boats: M-17 rudder refinishing
Date: 19 Apr 2000 06:51:35 -0500
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This being the case, perhaps someone has the design specs and could give them to
Doug for the website. From the appearence of it, I don't think my rudder is up
to original specs, but have no way of checking it. A side profile would be good
information to have in the event the rudder were to be damaged beyond repair.
BTW: Does Bob Eng make the rudders for the new boats, or are they purchased from
a supplier? In contrast to the change from cast iron to fiberglass centerboards,
the new rudders look to be the same as on the older boats.
Howard
M17 #278
SailBabb@aol.com wrote:
> As an owner of a M17, I have refinished the rudder about 3 times. One must
> be careful not to change the configuration of the rudder even the slightest
> bit. The relationship of the rudder to the hull is critical and can
> interrupt the flow of the water as it exits the boat. There is such a thing
> as skin friction. I had a friend that once wax the hull of the boat and lost
> hull speed as a result. Sailbabb(Lionel)
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Message 3 of 4

From: Doug King
Subject: M_Boats: Howard, the Web Site Thunder Stealer
Date: 19 Apr 2000 12:00:29 -0400
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I didn't want to divulge this yet (gotta save something for the honeymoon)
but in fact, I spoke with Bob Eeg last weekend. He is enthusiatic about the
new site and offered to provide us with all kinds of stuff, including all
of the original equipment specs for the Montgomerys, even before I had a
chance to ask him. The man is on the ball. My concern was whether there had
been many changes in the specs over the years, but apparently there have
not been. Hoping to have a list of dimensions, materials, etc. that will be
an authoritative source an M-boat owner can go to with complete confidence
that it is the correct information.
I am also hoping we can provide a list of vendors of the few M-components
that aren't generally available--sailmakers who have the specs in their
database, for example. Also, vendors who have experience with repairing
these particular centerboards, rudders, etc. and their contact information.
I will let you know when and how to contribute information you might have
in this area.
I am expecting to hear that the web site is established any minute now
(literally).
Doug
At 06:51 AM 4/19/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>This being the case, perhaps someone has the design specs and could give
>them to
>Doug for the website. From the appearence of it, I don't think my rudder is up
>to original specs, but have no way of checking it. A side profile would be
good
>information to have in the event the rudder were to be damaged beyond repair.
>
>BTW: Does Bob Eng make the rudders for the new boats, or are they purchased
>from
>a supplier? In contrast to the change from cast iron to fiberglass
>centerboards,
>the new rudders look to be the same as on the older boats.
>
>Howard
>M17 #278
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Message 4 of 4

From: jerry montgomery
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard pins, ad nauseam
Date: 02 Aug 2000 21:17:41 +0000
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Or- pull the board all the way up, (works even when it is sitting on a
trailer) measure 15" and tie a knot there. Make it tight so it won't
migrate.
Tom Smith wrote:
>
> I'm not commenting on the oversized pin idea, but my 15 had a pin problem,
> and I wanted to beat this dead horse just one more time.
>
> The 15 cb operates according to a simpler set of rules than the 17 does.
> Rather than all this exotic machinery, the 15 board just pivots down from a
> pin through the front of trunk. You lower the thing with a rope. Butt
> simple.
>
> I don't believe the fellow I bought my boat from tied a stopper knot in the
> cb drop line. This makes the pin the sole support link for the board, and
> that lonely pin takes considerable punishment. Absent the knot, the pin in
> my boat failed eventually and had to be repaired. It looks like they did a
> good job, but they could have saved some grief with a simple figure 8 knot.
>
> One can position the knot by feel on the water. Lower the cb without a
> knot. It's very evident when the board is fully extended. Note or mark
> that spot on the line. Raise the board and tie a knot in the line a bit
> below that mark so it shares the load with the pin. Easy, but very
> important. Tom
>
> Tom Smith
> LineSoft Corporation
> Phone: 509-928-1707 ext. 248
> Fax: 509-928-2581
> E-mail: tsmith@linesoft.com
> Website: www.linesoft.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug King [mailto:dking@vt.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:10 AM
> To: montgomery_boats@lists.xmission.com
> Subject: M_Boats: Centerboard pins, ad nauseam
>
> Maybe a dumb question, but with everyone having trouble with db pins
> bending, popping out, and the like, why doesn't it make sense to put a
> larger pin in? If I remember correctly, Jerry Montgomery said he used 1/2"
> pins on some boats, so why not drill out and put a half, 5/8" or even 3/4"
> in? Don't know how the original pin holes were supposed to look (Jerry had
> mentioned inserting the pin in from the right side, so there must be a
> difference), but mine look like they've been worked on a few times.
> Can't imagine the smaller pins work as a safeguard, since if one goes,
> you're in deep (hopefully shallow) trouble anyway. And I can't imagine it
> would change the lay of the cb enough to matter.
>
> Any comments?
>
> Doug King
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