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M_Boats: Fw: Stuck Centerboard
Re: M_Boats: Fw: Stuck Centerboard
M_Boats: still looking for an M15
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M_Boats: deck failure on m-15
Re: M_Boats: spares - centerboard issues
Re: M_Boats: Thanks

Message 1 of 6

From: "Keith Diehl"
Subject: M_Boats: Fw: Stuck Centerboard
Date: 17 Jan 1998 11:13:03 -0700
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> From: Robert Rubey
> To: kdiehl@xmission.com
> Subject: Stuck Centerboard
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:52 AM
>
> Keith
> I'm sending this to you because I'm out of town, am using a
friend's
> computer, and don't have the Montgomery owners server address
(I got your
> address out of the archives). Could you forward this to the
news group? I
> had a question about my stuck (in the down position)
centerboard. The boat
> is in the water now. From reading the comments in the
archives, I get the
> impression that the centerboard pivots from the aft pin. Is
this true?
> The reason I ask is that I'm trying to decide if I should try
to get the
> center board up by pulling my boat up onto its trailer at the
ramp, and
> getting the centerboard to go up into its well as the boat
slides up onto
> the trailer. This wouldn't work, of course, if the
centerboard pivots on
> the aft pin; in that case, I'll have to sail the boat to a
yard and have it
> hauled to get at the board and make repairs. Any suggestions?
If anybody
> can offer any suggestions, please reply to me at
rroubaix@worldnet.att.net.
> Thanks, Robert
>
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Message 2 of 6

From: Richard Lane
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fw: Stuck Centerboard
Date: 17 Jan 1998 21:51:16 -0800
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Keith Diehl wrote:
>
> ----------
> > From: Robert Rubey
> > To: kdiehl@xmission.com
> > Subject: Stuck Centerboard
> > Date: Saturday, January 17, 1998 8:52 AM
> >
> > Keith
> > I'm sending this to you because I'm out of town, am using a
> friend's
> > computer, and don't have the Montgomery owners server address
> (I got your
> > address out of the archives). Could you forward this to the
> news group? I
> > had a question about my stuck (in the down position)
> centerboard. The boat
> > is in the water now. From reading the comments in the
> archives, I get the
> > impression that the centerboard pivots from the aft pin. Is
> this true?
> > The reason I ask is that I'm trying to decide if I should try
> to get the
> > center board up by pulling my boat up onto its trailer at the
> ramp, and
> > getting the centerboard to go up into its well as the boat
> slides up onto
> > the trailer. This wouldn't work, of course, if the
> centerboard pivots on
> > the aft pin; in that case, I'll have to sail the boat to a
> yard and have it
> > hauled to get at the board and make repairs. Any suggestions?
> If anybody
> > can offer any suggestions, please reply to me at
> rroubaix@worldnet.att.net.
> > Thanks, Robert
> >
I believe that the centerboard pivot is forward in the trunk so it
should be possible to "ram it home" using the boat weight, though what
you do next without hoisting is a good question.
Dick M-23 Sadhana
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Message 3 of 6

From: Francene Lebowitz
Subject: M_Boats: still looking for an M15
Date: 28 May 1998 08:20:56 -0700
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We saw an '81 M15 over the weekend that the owner would sell but
considered it 'a member of the family', so he wasn't at all eager to
sell. It's just that he's got a Pontoon at a slip and only used the
Montgomery once last year. Anyway, on inspection I found:
1. Substantial erosion on centerboard, looking up at it from
underneath the boat on trailer. Substantial delamination in an 8"
section of centerboard, so that I could fit my fingertips in the
openings.
2. Water in the cabin storage lockers, even though they were covered
with cushions. Owner said it was from rain, but all else was dry in
there.
3. Fender on trailer loose, needed a weld. Tires low, worn, need
replacement. Also Rollers on trailer very worn.
4. Boat and mast, rigging and 2hp Johnson looked fine, a testimony to
how well built it must have been. Teak all dry and faded, but that can
be restored.
5. Mainsail and jib felt stiff, although main was stored haphazardly
in a heap on a cabin bunk. An orange colored jib was in a bag.
6. Hull #138
So what would it take to repair a badly chipped and delaminated
centerboard face? How much cost are we talking about here? The owner was
asking $3500 for boat, white Trailrite and 2hp Johnson--all but the
motor looking like they could alot of TLC and then some for the
centerboard. I think I'll wait a bit on this one and keep looking
around. So, still looking for an M15 in So California if anyone has any
leads. Thanks! -Fran
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Message 4 of 6

From: Grove777@aol.com
Subject: M_Boats: deck failure on m-15
Date: 15 Oct 1998 09:29:56 EDT
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warning to all m-15 owners...yesterday while assisting w/lowering of mast[very
carefully]...suddenly the mast dropped vertically about 2 feet...at first
could not comprehend what had happened...upon examination...the deck below the
mast tabernacle collapsed and the mast dropped straight down into the
cabin...the area is soft and very spongy...it appears that the four
boltsattaching the mast tabernacle allowed moisture to seep into the core and
then the deck softened, glass on cabin side delaminated and the whole thing
collapsed...note...the mast was under no downward strain as it was being
lowered back towards the cockpit...infact it had probably not moved more than
6 feet in an arc as it was being lowered and was not in a strain...the owner
of the boat died of luekemia after a 2 year battle and so it has not been
looked after for 2 years..but why would the deck collapse...also front deck
seems to be soft...2 questions...ideas on repairs and reinforcement???...and
whats the trick to get the centerboard free???...no barnacles or little rocks
wedged in the well...thanks for any response
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Message 5 of 6

From: "John Fleming"
Subject: Re: M_Boats: spares - centerboard issues
Date: 28 Oct 1998 17:29:41 -0700
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Randy_Watkins@odp.tamu.edu wrote:
> Lenny thanks I'll check them out for some of the general spares. One
> item I read about in some of the earlier postings were centerboard
> problems. I don't have this problem
> ( and hope I don't in the future) but how would you for instance
> obtain a replacement c/b for a M15? would you have to have one made
> or is there a source for these critical type parts.
I haven't gotten through all the archives (perhaps some poor soul could distill
them into a FAQ), but I did have several experiences with my M-17 centerboard.
First, the pivot pin for the centerboard mounted through the keel trunk kept
walking out. Just the little back and forth movement of the board while sailing
was enough to start it walking out. I could not have done a multi-day sail without
risking the centerboard completely falling out of trunk, or something worse. What
a disaster that would have been! The shop filled the holes on both sides, glassed
them over, and gelcoated. I don't know if that is the preferred response or not
(it wasn't necessarily mine), but it's done. Perhaps a better response would have
been to have some sort of C-ring insert into a slot at both ends of the pin. With
their response, any time the centerboard hoist rigging needs replacing or
repairing, we are going to have to find and break into the filled/glassed over
holes and push the pin out to drop the board entirely out of the trunk.
Second. Before they fixed the first problem, I had the boat hoisted, and the
centerboard removed from the keel trunk. I had them inspect the centerboard hoist
rigging. The rigging seemed fine, but they noticed that the little metal tab at
the back of the centerboard had broken off. This tab, part of the original
casting, if it's there, it supposed to rest against a through-pin at the rear and
bottom of the centerboard keel trunk, and keep the centerboard from swinging too
far forward and damaging the front of the trunk.
Apparently, or so the shop said, the tab breaking off is is a common failure, as
well as when it does, subsequent damage to the trunk (which mine also had had). To
mitigate this, there is a big knot in the centerboard haul up/down line (I forget
the exact name!) just inside the companionway, inside the cabin, and at the front
top of the centerboard trunk. When the centerboard is fully deployed, the knot
rests on the entrance hole to the trunk, and prevents any more forward movement of
the centerboard.
All you other M-17'ers: is this problem common? Have you had similar
experiences? How have you solved the centerboard pivot pin walkout problem?
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Regards,
--
John Fleming
Systems Engineering
Advanced Systems Division
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Message 6 of 6

From: chbenneck@juno.com (Conbert H Benneck)
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Thanks
Date: 07 Nov 1998 20:09:46 -0500
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Steve Alm - Moondance M-15 # 402
Steve: question: do you have a leak coming into the boat via the
cockpit drain and centerboard pennant slot?
On my M-15 #400, I found a leak, and Jerry confirmed that they had had a
problem there, which was corrected by modifying the hull liner with the
moulded in berths and storage lockers.
I found my leak, which was just under the lip of the cockpit drain on the
starboard side , and now will have to cut open the area to get at the
leak area and effect a repair.
If you have the same problem, give me your email address, and in spring
when I make the repair (our temperatures are too low to do any epoxy work
now), I will send you a description of what I found when I cut into the
area, and how I repaired it.
Connie
M-15 #400 LEPPO
Glastonbury, CT
email: chbenneck@juno.com
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M_Boats: Fw: Stuck Centerboard
Re: M_Boats: Fw: Stuck Centerboard
M_Boats: still looking for an M15
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Re: M_Boats: spares - centerboard issues
Re: M_Boats: Thanks